It costs the city [NY] $550K to incarcerate one person at Rikers for a year. And the city spends this much per student in contrast:

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Full convo on reforming Rikers and federal receivership with @Campaign Zero ‘s DeRay McKesson out now on #applepodcasts and #spotifypodcasts

That difference in price tag is one of the many elements discussed on the pod’s interview with DeRay Mckesson, who is the Executive Director of Campaign Zero, on the need for a federal receivership for Rikers. The conversation also talks about the ongoing humanitarian crisis occurring on the island – covering how it came to be and what needs to be done to course correct it, including hitting the overarching goal of closing Rikers by 2027. To view, you know what to do:

The winding road of the conversation naturally discusses the political forces involved here, including the role NY Mayor Eric Adams plays and has played. DeBlasio even finds himself with a mention here, but the core of the interview is prison reform and why it's needed now, not later.

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